Comments on: Changes have caused rage, no more inactive account training

By: Ez

Ez — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 21:34:06 +0000

Ga’len, what Bel Amar said IS exactly true. If you buy a GTC with isk then someone had to buy that time with cash. Should I draw you some easy to read diagrams to explain how?
On the issue, what worries me here is that CCP are looking at their own pockets when they should be looking at player experience also. I don’t think there is a player out there who isn’t fed up with 30 minute skills or skills that end while you are away from the PC. Although CCP may not realise it, some of us have lives and jobs and the skill training system need to be looked at to accommodate for that. Essentially time and money is effectively lost if I can’t get home in time to change one of those skills with the inconvinient training time. Times are tough, but CCP shouldn’t disregard its loyal fans and players and make it easier for them to play in difficult times.

By: CrazyKinux

CrazyKinux — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 16:08:39 +0000

What the hell did they expect, a free ride? No thank you very much.

The only thing one could say against CCP on this is that CCP took a bit to long to shutdown this loop hole. But they definitely did the right thing.

By: Ga'len

Ga'len — Tue, 14 Oct 2008 14:56:46 +0000

Bel Amar, that’s not exactly true.

GTC’s are a way that someone can play EVE without having to use real world money. We had a few members in our corp who never paid for their accounts using real money, they always used GTC’s they bought with in game isk. Some of them stopped playing when the GTC prices went up, they simply could not generate enough in game isk to pay for the code.

Granted, when you buy a GTC code, you are giving more money to the GTC sellers, not all of which are owned by CCP. Let’s not forget the real isse. The issue was people not paying for their character to advance. It was a bug that as of late, more and more people started to exploit.

If only in game isk could be use to pay rent, buy food, etc…

By: Bel Amar

Bel Amar — Tue, 14 Oct 2008 11:19:07 +0000

Ga’Len, even if someone buys their GTC with isk, they’re buying it from someone who handed over cold hard cash for it. X active players still equals X subs being paid, even if they’re being paid for by someone other than the account holder

By: Ga'len

Ga'len — Tue, 14 Oct 2008 09:28:08 +0000

True, the timing is interesting. Something people seem to forget is that with GTC’s accounting for a good portion of the player base, not all of the 200,000+ subscribers are actually paying customers. CCP has not addressed this issue until they “saw a surge in this behavior”. I wonder how many of those accounts that were doing this were isk farmers.

By: Flashman

Flashman — Tue, 14 Oct 2008 02:59:51 +0000

It’s hard not to notice that this comes at the same time Iceland has had its three largest banks nationalized, and hard economic times are hitting the world. I wonder how CCP’s balance sheets are looking, if they’re only now taking action against “essentially supporting and maintaining a large number of customers that weren’t paying us regular subscriptions”.

By: YoMma

YoMma — Tue, 14 Oct 2008 01:54:29 +0000

I agree with you, I think it’s a bit of a joke that people are whining about having to pay to advance in EVE. They’re fine to pay when they have their skill but would rather not pay whilst their character gets better for free?

They can’t expect CCP to actively promote a way to advance and NOT pay them their subscription fee.