Yup, Band of Brothers disbands, becomes Kenzoku and now they become Band of Brothers Reloaded.
As usual, the EVE forums are rife with discontent over the name change. Supposedly Kenzoku leadership put in a petition to have the alliance name changed. EVE GM’s received the petition and changed the name. GM Grimmi even went so far to make a post on the EVE forums.
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1032494
GM Grimmi:
Yesterday we changed the name of the alliance KenZoku to Band of Brothers Reloaded as the result of a petition by their leadership. It has come to our attention that this was not a popular decision among some of our players and we’d like to take this opportunity to address those issues.
We have previously changed names provided a petition was created within a reasonable timeframe and the situation warranted such action. The leadership of KenZoku/Band of Brothers did petition us immediately after they were disbanded and their name was taken. While we worked on the petition for about two months we do not feel that they should suffer because of that. Having them disband and lose sovereignty again was not deemed appropriate in this case.
This action was limited to changing their name, as we have done before for others – we did not assist them in regaining their sovereignty after the Band of Brothers alliance was disbanded, nor did we assist with that now. Any other corporation or alliance finding themselves in the same situation would get the same treatment.
Now, I understand what this says and on the surface it looks fine. Read the threadnaught that follows his post and you will learn that everyone is calling foul and claiming ‘dev misconduct’. Many people want CCP to simply show an example of a petition for an alliance name change that was granted. Many people are citing examples of such petitions that were simply denied.
The EVE forums are NOT a place to find truth as they are a cesspool that continues to fester with discontent, however, I have to agree with the rabble so far. CCP needs to provide examples of where they have changed an alliance’s name in the past as they did for Kenzoku.
However, there is a post from Lem2J to consider:
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1031624&page=20#585
When Cult of War (COW) didnt pay the bill, the alliance was disbanded. A third party took the corp name in order to block the re-creation of Cow. I petitioned this, the corp was re-named and we paid the fee to recreate the alliance…
The same rules should apply to BOB imo, Sov should have been lost (as they did) but they should be able to retain the name.
Granted, this is not evidence provided by CCP, but rather a player bringing to light another incident of an alliance name change petition being granted. CCP confirming the Cult of War example should difuse this situation. I do hope they do so soon.
UPDATE: Kenzoku name change has been reversed!!
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1033628
GM Grimmi:
We appreciate the feedback from everyone. After reviewing all of these very valid concerns, we were compelled to go back over the information we’d collected in this case and carefully weighed it again against the precedents set in the past. Ultimately, we felt we had no other recourse than to reverse the name change, the key factor being that during this re-investigation we learned that the KenZoku alliance was created several months before the BoB alliance leadership switched hands. That being the case, the name change request was not submitted within a timely manner, as it had been in the legacy cases we were holding up as examples.
We will be contacting the CSM for input regarding our naming policies.
Well, well, seems that CCP messed up on this one. At least they fixed this in the end. I do hope that they do bring naming issues to the next CSM meeting as they say they will. This is obviously something that needs to be looked at and worked again.
March 25th, 2009 at 11:48 pm
Wow, this one's just going to go on and on, isn't it?
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March 26th, 2009 at 1:13 am
EVE Forums drama…
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March 28th, 2009 at 5:59 am
Considering the haste in which an alliance would need to be created to regain sov, I would agree with CCP that a name change should be granted.
Since kenzoku already existed, it was not created in this haste. Had BoB created a new alliance and used that, CCP would most likely have upheld this change.
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